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Post by frostbite on Mar 8, 2021 12:47:01 GMT -6
My decision not to vaccinate is partly driven by the situation here in Australia. There has been zero new covid cases here for 50 days apart from those we import from overseas. Latest figures show only 29 cases in hospital in the entire country, and only 909 deaths in total. If we didn't import cases covid wouldn't exist in Australia. All the damage to our economy and our loss of freedoms were caused by an idiot in government allowing a cruise ship full of cases to disembark and spread out within the community.
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Post by billmasen on Mar 8, 2021 14:02:44 GMT -6
I don't think it's so much anti-vaxxers as Covid deniers. There seems to be an inordinate amount of people who believe that Covid is not the dangerous pandemic that it actually is. I fear a lot of them have missed the point. It's not the death rate that has the powers that be scared, but the infection rate. In my little part of the world, at it's height the local 1250 bed hospital was sending patients to other hospitals as they couldn't cope. That is what all the brew ha ha has been about. When your health system becomes overwhelmed treating pandemic patients it leaves little to no spare capacity for treating day to day emergencies and illnesses. As for choice, it is entirely a personal decision and like Bill, I'm happy for everyone to make their own mind up. However, I have no need to be told I'm wrong for choosing to be vaccinated and should there ever become a time when certain services or outcomes depend on being vaccinated, I hope those who chose not to have the jab have the good grace to accept that their decision may have consequences. Yup our 1400 bed Teaching hospital ended up airlifting patients oin respirators all over the north, they even had to stop all surgeries and use the operating theatres as wards because they had built in ventilation equipment. at times we have 14 Ambulances queued up outside A & E with patients that could not breath for themselves but no where to put em. Thank god for the armies Nightingale hospitals.
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Post by billmasen on Mar 8, 2021 14:03:33 GMT -6
My decision not to vaccinate is partly driven by the situation here in Australia. There has been zero new covid cases here for 50 days apart from those we import from overseas. Latest figures show only 29 cases in hospital in the entire country, and only 909 deaths in total. If we didn't import cases covid wouldn't exist in Australia. All the damage to our economy and our loss of freedoms were caused by an idiot in government allowing a cruise ship full of cases to disembark and spread out within the community. You lucky sod
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Post by dirtdiva on Mar 8, 2021 16:17:47 GMT -6
The bottom line is everyone has to assess their own personal risk and make that decision as far as what is best for their own bodies and the situation in their own country. I intend to respect that decision from other people and hope at the least on this forum that every one will do the same and respect mine. Can't ask for more
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Post by dirtdiva on Mar 9, 2021 7:27:26 GMT -6
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Post by sonic on Mar 9, 2021 8:18:12 GMT -6
We have similar over here DD. Scum of the earth.
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Post by dirtdiva on Mar 11, 2021 7:21:33 GMT -6
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Post by dirtdiva on Mar 11, 2021 7:24:14 GMT -6
Well I took a drive to a local hospital yesterday and a big burly special forces National Guardsman gave me my first Covid shot. Took one for the team I guess. I will say the most painless shot I have ever had. He was good. No side effects at all yet. My arm isn't even sore.
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Post by JIM on Mar 12, 2021 11:21:50 GMT -6
I hope that everyone is enjoying their B12 shots. LOL
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Post by kelabar on Jul 23, 2021 8:43:42 GMT -6
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Post by drhenley on Jul 23, 2021 11:32:18 GMT -6
Do I take an experimental vaccine that has not been fully tested or approved by the FDA, and that had not been shown to prevent COVID-19 infections, and may possibly cause damage to my organs due to the fact that the spike protein is a toxin if it gets into the bloodstream? And if I do have severe complications or even die from the vaccine, I have no recourse because the vaccine manufacturers cannot be held liable under US Law.
Hmmm...hard one...
I leave you with this from someone you probably have heard of...read it carefully...
"I took the first jab of AZ and straight away had severe reactions which lasted ten days, I recovered eventually and was told it would be twelve weeks before the second one…,"
"About six weeks later I was offered and took the second AZ shot, but with a little more knowledge of the dangers. Needless to say the reactions were disastrous, my hands and feet were either frozen, numb or burning, and pretty much useless for two weeks, I feared I would never play again, (I suffer with peripheral neuropathy and should never have gone near the needle.) But the propaganda said the vaccine was safe for everyone…."
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"Following the PM’s announcement on Monday the 19th of July 2021 I feel honour bound to make an announcement of my own: I wish to say that I will not perform on any stage where there is a discriminated audience present. Unless there is provision made for all people (vaccinated or not) to attend, I reserve the right to cancel the show. "
- Eric Clapton.
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Post by kelabar on Jul 31, 2021 20:54:15 GMT -6
Some info on the pre-existing conditions. Underlying Medical Conditions and Severe Illness Among 540,667 Adults Hospitalized With COVID-19, March 2020–March 2021 The introduction: "Severe COVID-19 illness in adults has been linked to underlying medical conditions. This study identified frequent underlying con- ditions and their attributable risk of severe COVID-19 illness." From the conclusion: "Certain underlying conditions and the number of conditions were associated with severe COVID-19 illness. Hypertension and dis- orders of lipid metabolism were the most frequent, whereas obesity, diabetes with complication, and anxiety disorders were the strongest risk factors for severe COVID-19 illness." 21_0123.pdf (645.45 KB)
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Post by kelabar on Aug 6, 2021 6:32:32 GMT -6
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Post by JIM on Aug 6, 2021 16:53:10 GMT -6
Because of the fake info the so called experts are dishing out.no.im still not getting it.
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Post by johngalt on Aug 8, 2021 23:55:51 GMT -6
I'm not either.
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Post by kelabar on Sept 11, 2021 17:57:01 GMT -6
This explains it. Why pro-injection people are so OTT.
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Post by drhenley on Sept 12, 2021 5:33:56 GMT -6
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Post by drhenley on Sept 12, 2021 5:49:30 GMT -6
I got the Janssen (Johnson&Johnson) jab, not an mRNA vaccine, and it's One And Done. Data now coming out seems to imply that it is more effective against Delta than the mRNA vaccines. Time will tell. They do know it is actually MORE effective against Delta than against Beta.
Some statistics you won't see on CNN...mortality rate for the Jannsen vaccine (deaths attributed to the vaccine) is 40% lower than for the Pfizer. Current Data taken directly from the CDC and VAERS. Pfizer: Fully vaxxed in US: 96,782,513. Deaths attributed to the vaccine: 9985 Mortality: 0.01% Janssen: Fully vaxxed in US: 14,406,820 Deaths attributed to the vaccine: 925 Mortality: 0.006%
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Post by dirtdiva on Sept 15, 2021 11:13:59 GMT -6
I got the Janssen (Johnson&Johnson) jab, not an mRNA vaccine, and it's One And Done. Data now coming out seems to imply that it is more effective against Delta than the mRNA vaccines. Time will tell. They do know it is actually MORE effective against Delta than against Beta. Some statistics you won't see on CNN...mortality rate for the Jannsen vaccine (deaths attributed to the vaccine) is 40% lower than for the Pfizer. Current Data taken directly from the CDC and VAERS. Pfizer: Fully vaxxed in US: 96,782,513. Deaths attributed to the vaccine: 9985 Mortality: 0.01% Janssen: Fully vaxxed in US: 14,406,820 Deaths attributed to the vaccine: 925 Mortality: 0.006% Tennessee used their J&J almost exclusively in the prisons because it was a one shot vaccine. For the majority of the state population it was Moderna or nothing.
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Post by kelabar on Oct 21, 2021 0:28:39 GMT -6
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